The History of The Hawtrey Family

Re: The History of The Hawtrey Family

feeds@yuku.com (Pat Larkin) — Fri, 09 May 2008 05:27:22 GMT

This site is mainly concerned with selling products bearing whatever name you wish to use. There is a small amount of history about the origins of surnames, but not in great depth. The family coat of arms is also displayed.

Re: The History of The Hawtrey Family

feeds@yuku.com (Pat Larkin) — Fri, 09 May 2008 05:07:35 GMT

I typed 'Dawtrey' into Google. Clicked on the second heading from the first page, 'The Dawtrey Crest', and their site came up giving lots of variations on the family name, including 'Hawtrey'.....take a look. I'm going back 'in' to read it all.

Re: The History of The Hawtrey Family

feeds@yuku.com (thamesweb) — Wed, 07 May 2008 12:51:13 GMT

Dawtrey suggests French connection... De Awtrey (actually D'Awtrey) but with a variety of French style endings Awtrai, Awtré, etc. Probably Anglicised at some point to break the French connection. I have also seen Hawtree, and I bet there are others. The rarity of those able to write... and the greater rarity of those who could write AND spell, resulted in a number of variants over the years of course.

Re: The History of The Hawtrey Family

feeds@yuku.com (Pat Larkin) — Wed, 07 May 2008 06:30:40 GMT

In Vol.I. of The History of The Hawtrey Family, on page 2, two-thirds of the page down, 'It had been acquired by the marriage of Sir William de Alta Ripa, Dawtrey or Hawtrey of Algarkirk in Lincolnshire.......' so, which surname is the true one?

Re: The History of The Hawtrey Family

feeds@yuku.com (Pat Larkin) — Wed, 07 May 2008 02:36:31 GMT

Vol.II, CHAPTER LXXVII, pages 379 - 382, 'LAST DAYS'. I have just read this and it's a very moving chapter. I'm not reading in any particular order, I'm just opening the book and reading whatever's there. Thanks for the link above, I've saved it to 'favourites'..have you researched where the name 'Hawtrey' comes from? Is it English, French maybe. I'm going to have a look in one of the 'name search site'.

Re: The History of The Hawtrey Family

feeds@yuku.com (thamesweb) — Wed, 07 May 2008 00:29:49 GMT

I was just checking to see if Google had found this thread by searching for the thread title as there must be a number of Hawtreys out there following up their family history too. That is how I found the link used above from this page www.archive.org

Re: The History of The Hawtrey Family

feeds@yuku.com (Pat Larkin) — Tue, 06 May 2008 23:15:21 GMT

Where and how did you 'come by' this then?? This is Vol.II. I've clicked on and had a very quick look, it starts at Chapter XXXV. Having both volumes, here, next to me, is so good, and having this new link is fantastic. I can return phyllisamelia's Vol.II and take my time now on reading Vol.I. Well done, and it seems to be signed too....come on now, spill the beans..I know how phyllisamelia managed to get hold of her copies, so ?.......'your' copy is signed as well,...

Re: The History of The Hawtrey Family

feeds@yuku.com (thamesweb) — Tue, 06 May 2008 15:46:23 GMT

Oh, look. Here's Florence's book!

Re: The History of The Hawtrey Family

feeds@yuku.com (thamesweb) — Sun, 04 May 2008 01:11:22 GMT

The modern equivalent is kellysearch.co.uk but for the last two hundred years 'Kelly's' was a printed listing of addresses, businesses and private individuals for each town in the country. I have editions from the 30s, 50s and 70s and are useful for research, but they are hard to come by as of course normally they would have been thrown out when the next edition was published, like phone books.

The older they...

Re: The History of The Hawtrey Family

feeds@yuku.com (Pat Larkin) — Sat, 03 May 2008 23:54:23 GMT

Another coincidence then. This Hawtrey connection is turning up all sorts of things!! Kelly's - do they have a website? Can I just buy a copy in town in Smith's? Would I find them in our local library? thanks for any info.

Re: The History of The Hawtrey Family

feeds@yuku.com (thamesweb) — Sat, 03 May 2008 14:40:05 GMT

According to Kelly, 1953, '13 High Street. Anne Page, homemade cake shop & restaurant.

By 1972 it was Trade Winds, Fancy Goods.

Re: The History of The Hawtrey Family

feeds@yuku.com (Pat Larkin) — Sat, 03 May 2008 09:26:13 GMT

I remember being told by my sister-in-law, (Dorset branch), that she was taken on, many moons ago, when she was 15, by a lady in a tearoom/cake shop along that stretch opposite The Parish Church......I can only remember the lady's first name, it was Gertrude. When she gets back from her holiday, I'll email her and get more info. The cake shop was still 'going' when I lived in Windsor, was it 'Ann Paige', or was that the 'fashion' shop? Someone else might...

Re: The History of The Hawtrey Family

feeds@yuku.com (thamesweb) — Sat, 03 May 2008 00:52:30 GMT

Not quite sure without going to look, but it is roughly opposite the Parish Church. Both 'odds' and 'evens' are on the same side so the former Express offices were at no. 4 for many years and The Castle Hotel at no. 18 opposite the Guildhall. There are a couple of shops with really large windows on the first floor so I suspect that would have suited a photographers studio.

Re: The History of The Hawtrey Family

feeds@yuku.com (Pat Larkin) — Sat, 03 May 2008 00:20:09 GMT

Where would '13 High St, Windsor' be on today's map of Windsor?

Re: The History of The Hawtrey Family

feeds@yuku.com (thamesweb) — Fri, 02 May 2008 16:09:52 GMT

I am delighted to see your first post on our forum. I will see that you get information about my connection by email.

Here is Seymour aged six, with Aunt Flo (on R) and Aunt Anne in 1878.

Here is a fragment of a receipt dated December 1901 and made out by photographers J Russell of the High Street for 18 cabinet photographs at a Special Price of £1...

Re: The History of The Hawtrey Family

feeds@yuku.com (Pat Larkin) — Fri, 02 May 2008 12:51:06 GMT

Hello, Phyllisamelia, I have e-mailed to you the photos, just go back into your e-mails and have another look, they're also on this page......I'm SO glad you've 'got on' the Forum and now you don't have to phone me, or I you, any more.....I'll return your Hawtrey Family books when we come down again.....I've started reading the one on 'Eton', very good, and all those traditions too. I hadn't a clue.

Re: The History of The Hawtrey Family

feeds@yuku.com (phyllisamelia) — Fri, 02 May 2008 11:54:49 GMT

I am a friend of Pat Larkin and descended from Montague and also John Hawtrey, both brothers of Stephen Hawtrey. From your note to Pat Larkin, Seymour was Florence's nephew and, if we are thinking of the same Ursula, Ursula is his daughter. Are you a relative? If so, where do you fit into the family tree? I would be interested to see the photo of Seymour with Aunt Florence and Anna (I presume her eldest sister). I am not sure about the picture of Florence Hawtrey since I do not already...

Re: The History of The Hawtrey Family

feeds@yuku.com (Pat Larkin) — Fri, 02 May 2008 08:12:53 GMT

Have saved the picture, and e-mailed it to her.....

Re: The History of The Hawtrey Family

feeds@yuku.com (thamesweb) — Fri, 02 May 2008 08:06:41 GMT

That would be Ursula then!!!

Re: The History of The Hawtrey Family

feeds@yuku.com (Pat Larkin) — Fri, 02 May 2008 07:59:19 GMT

Have spoken to my friend, she says to say that she has a photo of some members of her family, (she's on it too), standing outside the church next to Chequers. They were there to unveil the memorial in the church, paid for by a relative of her's who lives in Malta........she is standing next to Lady Margaret Thatcher and was subsequently in the newspaper, as 'Mrs' Thatcher had told her to 'get closer to me'.........she said the photo was taken in around 1990, but...

The History of The Hawtrey Family

feeds@yuku.com (Pat Larkin) — Fri, 02 May 2008 06:43:41 GMT

I had a cuppa this morning with a friend and have suggested that she joins the Forum site. She is a direct descendant of Stephen Hawtrey and has kindly lent me two novels written by another member of the family, Florence Molesworth Hawtrey. She is descended from brothers, Montague and John Hawtrey. I questioned her on this and she explained, with the help of the 'tree', that the family married cousins. She has drawn up a fantastic family tree going back to 1143. It has to be seen to...